John Company

UAP Reported at Sandia Base, 1948-1950

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10:00 - 12:00 A. J.1. on .Tul.y 26th.
At this eonterenoe it beceme ep:parent that
Dr. Crozier wao 1nollned to attribute the unuauall7 large copper fragcenta
collected on .Tuly 25 at 10,00 A..l!. (-.bich because ot their size could not h&vo
been blown "fer, tar by aurtace 111.nds•) to particles blO\l'D. off the root or out
ot the auttere ot t he Aseaying Building on the Campus.
In answer to e. queation
from the writer, Dr. Crozier replied that he would oone1der this pose1b1llty
ruled out it copper pm-tioles ob.owed up in colloctiono cade in t.he open oouum
at considerable distance• trCX!l the Campus. It wao tharotoro recom?;.ended th~
such oolleotions be made @d Dr. Crosier and t•.r. Seely rigged up a atonge
battery combination and B!llall D.O. J!!.Otor driven 1DlJ)aotmont collector- 11h1ch were
loaded into the o.s.t. etat't car and driven out through San Antonio, Carthage,
and B1ngbom, No
•enco (this route passing, in ~ . Taf't' o opinion, throueh the
region where pnrti~les tran tile tireball ot 1ul7 24th woo ld most probably have
been oarr1ed by the Tery light win.do provatlins in the region ainee the ino1­
dent.) Four ot tho collections mode on thio trip W81"$ examined on tho eveniDg
ot 1u.l.)- 26th by
• Ben Seely an4 all were found to contain copper particles
1nd1stineu1chable trom :those colleotod. in Socorro at about the omne time.
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(3) Pull detail.a on the mathod.e ot collection enployod by D:t-, Crozier end
Mr. Seel.T and on lata:r examinations of ~e dust l)Eµ'ticles collected af'ter the
graen tueballs or both J'ul.7 24th Cl1.4 August 6th are given 1n Dr, Crozier••
i-aport (R/D - tw, 8-10-49) copie11 of whieh are hereto appended. Dr; Crozier' s
tenta\1ve oonolusion trar:i study' ot the collections mal.e,not only in eonneotion
with the incident o~ .July 24th, but also that o't Aucuat &tb, ts that •the reBUlte
ot the prosont inveot1gaUon should be regarded as negative or inconclusive,•
From anelys1a or hie r~ort (R/D - tw • 8-10-49) end trom. several phone conYer­
satlona with Dr. Crozier, it io th e writer• belief' that Dr. Crozier was led to
the abow conolwsion by the tollowing taote listed below 1n docreaelng arder or
iq,ortance, md aooa:;ipanied by er!tioel OODn8ntat
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'l'he d1scoverz by tests t:iade on or about kpt l of ., a few
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r indications~ 1n dust collected at Socorro on J
14 l.949
i .e. ten
dgre betore the men fireball 1nc1den, ot J'uly 24th. Dr. Croz er baa 1n1"omed
the writer that tbs oolleotion ot July 14th wns ·care:t'lllly wrapped up end could
not have becom conte?!linated by copped dWlt '1h1oh blew 1n through the open win­
dows ot the n.D. &J>. Building at Socorro attar the 1no1dent ot July 24th.
I!o'7­
tner, there remains the poss1b111ty- that an 'Qllol:eerved or unreported green t ire-­
ball occurring in the Sooorro neighborhood ehortly before 1uly 14th put down
the copper dust round 1n t.be July 14th colleottaa.
To one tccn1l1ar with tb.c
al.!nost uninhabited country, around Soeorro md t.he tact that green tireballe aa
bright as the halt mon occurring at timea as favorable tor observation u '1 :))
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8:30 P.u. have gone alriost unreported, 1t aecms quite likely that a green
:t"ireball that tell arter midnight or during the daytime or while most or the
s1.7 was overcast tlisbt go entirely unroported.)
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The d1aore ane
between the co.!!ll>uted an! observed rates of
J.escent ot .er,· tine copper particles.
A.9 Dr. Crozier notes, such d!screpon­
c1e• are Wl.deratandable •it eome dor.nward motion had taken place in part of the
air involved.• Preo1sely wch dovm":18.rd tl.Otion oocurred in tha air near tho real
paths ot the f'lreballs of 1uly 24th and 111-rost Gtb tor ttleoa to.Us were nenrly
Tertioal. ll'urtbonloro tho best obaervatiOllB ot tho endpoints of these tireballa
ple.ee 1hat ~ .T'117 :?4th at a bight ot ltl-l2 miles and that ot A!Jeust 6th at 5-6
milsB.
'l'he downward directed bill1st1o head wave therefore coald Yery easily have
carried Dr. Orozier'a 145 hour particloe to mthin 10,000 teat of the earth at
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