John Company

Astronaut Scientific Debriefings, 1962-1963

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Dunkelman -
We are here to hear yours and I think we should· figure out
s ome mo r e of this .
I don't want to inject my thought into this, but
I was trying to quote you in saying that it is brownish smog layers
and wasn 9 t sure how to define it.
Schi rra - Yes.
This is dirty brown, not a pleasant brown, not one
you would like to see.
Sort of like a tattle tale brown instead of a
t attle tale gray.
Cameron - Venus was just off the edge of it.
I have the report · of i t~
Schirr a - Let ' s see , where are we there?
Cameron - J don't think you are saying anything about that.
I was
wonde r ing if you noticed Venus at that time?
Schi r r a = There was some point in here where I miscalled Venus or
Mercury, I forget which, but this is wrong.
I told them to correct
it and they never did .
But anyway this is what I did say.
I think
you could disprove me very easily, because it just couldn't be t her e .
I for got which one it was I referred to.
Venus and the moon· were
always together is the whole point» and they were t o me in a hori zontal
l ine which gave me a good reference.
0 °Keefe - Cdr. Schirra, there are some important points here.
Firs t
of all, of course, both Glenn and Carpenter saw stars underneat h the
ordinary airglow layer.
Schirra - Yes, I remember.
O' Keefe - So it clearly can ' t be seen and one would expect th at anyway.
Schirra - I would say that this is substantiated by my report of
seeing Mercury as it passed through these layers as Mercury set which