John Company

Astronaut Scientific Debriefings, 1962-1963

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XING (Statement, partially inaudible)

advancing a new theory that this might very well be some full
luminescence of areas around the capsule
we talked about this night and day
change. Whether there's anything of this kind
recombination back in the shadow
of the capsule. Five miles an hour
motions area of
capsule speed and so on. It certainly seems--it seems to be some connection
with the capsule in some way and not with something coming from outer space.

I estimated 3 to 5 miles an hour differential speed and I--it wasn't
over five miles an hour., that's definitely on the high side if we get up to
that. They were just very slowly drifting by. They gradually start disappearing
as the sun came up and we got up at more of an angle they gradually start
disappearing. And I couldn't see anything.

Did you see them before the sun rose?

No.

Did you look for them before that?

Yes. The second time around I was watching for these things.

But you did see them as soon as the sun rose?

The very first light of the sun--the very first rays of the sun than
came up, you could see the first ones appear just like that when the sun came up.

(Question, inaudible.....?

Yes.

Do you have an impression of the shape, the structure of the individual
particles.